Commander Lexi
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Post by Commander Lexi on Oct 20, 2021 8:00:35 GMT -6
I slept on it. I thought about it and I have an issue with this.
Explain to me, in a believable fashion, how it is that this transmitted EMP was broadcast when the entire power Grid had been hit and taken off line?
Since this is between just the two of us at this point (Thrax) and myself (Lexi), I would like to hear from a third party as to if this is believable or too far fetched? Sirolk? Castorious? What say you?
I have a couple of ways to play off this IF it is determined to be a believable concept. I think I'm going to hold off on a response until we have some input from these guys or at minimum ONE of these guys. Put the RP on hold until a decision is posted here.
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Gen. Jack Thrax
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Post by Gen. Jack Thrax on Oct 20, 2021 9:00:58 GMT -6
Well EMPs are capable through a few ways in fact there is an EMP bomb that in theory could bring down a city. The other current known source is a nuclear warhead which is sorta funny considering nukes do blow up everything that requires power as is.
Considering Terrans use holograms an EMP bomb or bombs is not out of the realm of possibilities much like Lexi got to Kobol faster than we got back to Terra๐คจ๐ฎ
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Post by Imperious Leader Kona on Oct 20, 2021 9:45:27 GMT -6
I am not doubting you know what you are talking about and I am just winging it here ........ is it possible to set off an EMP without power though? That's the question.
As for Lexi getting to Kobol faster. Stars disappear and reappear in an instant so this is entirely plausible. At least, my Stars always have. The Hybrid is the source who jumps the Stars. This was literally discussed with PUREVENOM and the entire Legion on his ProBoard Site many many years ago. I did not conjur this up. That is fact! Though no one here, well now wait a minute, FLESHCRUSHER can attest to this fact! He would have been in the TCL at that time and should remember the conversation.
Point being: Stars are jumped by the Hybrid who does not have to go thru space in the usual manner, but rather, she can make the Star appear wherever she tells it to appear. Thereby the Star can jump to Kobol directly from Terra in a flash.
Now, if Fleshcrusher, who is pure Cylon and always has been, tells me he thinks I'm wrong I will take his opinion into account and adapt.
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Post by Administrator on Oct 20, 2021 14:58:27 GMT -6
You would not need a power source per se to detonate an EMP blast sufficient to bring down electronics.
having said that, most modern military hardware (computers, planes, vehicles, etc;) are hardened to withstand the effects of an EMP blast.
Civilian objects as stated above usually cannot.
As for a Star being able to just jump from one place to a much farther place, space can be manipulated in ways we can only dream of. But the LAws of Astrophysics would most likely still apply. The Hybrid could easily jump, then jump again in an instance, and so on and so on until a Star was at Kobol in like no time. The computations needed for a jump could be performed much faster by the Hybrids than a human entering the coordinates into a n FTL computer.
Now that I am here in this discussion, I would like to broach another subject: The attack on Terra, and Kobol for that matter.
A few years ago (real time) there was a stroy line whereas the Cylons attacked Terra full force, 15 basestars or something like that. Many were destroyed by the planetary defense weapons created by the Gondawans, who had such technology and had been keeping it a secret from both the Terrans and Colonials, until it became evident it needed to be shared. This weapon was of a kinetic, plasm-type projectile weapon, capable of destroying or severely damaging any ship it hit, depending upon the size of the ship and where the hit occurred.
Since this has not been explained in this current story arc, you will see a few of my characters have raised the question as to WHY the planets defense system isn't working or doing its job. The weapons are not networked, they are manually operated HOWEVER, they do depend upon DRADIS to track a target. To explain why Raiders and basestar(s) have been able to get to the planet without being wiped out en masse, I have come up with an idea in my head and will be writing it shortly that someone or some persons (Cylon-Human Hybrids of course, because they look just like US) have, years ago, infiltrated the Terran and Colonial military and the government on Terra (and most likely Kobol as well) and were able to not only disconnect the DRADIS links to the various weapons sites across the planet but to disable it to the point it will take some time to get things back up and running. having said that, the crews that actually "operate" the weapons, can fire them but without the DRADIS uplink, they could actually miss their targets, which could be disastrous if anything else is in the line of fire, say a moon, another planet, a ship. These shots fired can travel great distances, which is why the Cylons never attempted another full-scale atatck until now, since their Agents have disabled the entire system.
There, that'll give you all something to chew on.
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Post by Imperious Leader Kona on Oct 20, 2021 15:06:18 GMT -6
Sirolk? Do you have any input before this issue is put to bed? I am taking into account the response from Administrator and also from General Thrax. I'm game to play along if this is the road I am given to play on. ***addendum*** Sully just posted from Cyogreddie's files rather interesting information dated 10 years prior. It is clearly documented by the time stamp and it clearly states: The basestar and raiders have a carbon composite coating to give the ship stealth capability as well as electromagnetic anti-gravity shielding that deflects or absorbs incoming energy weapon based fire. So, it has been documented and long ago that an EMP will actually not affect either a Star or Raiders.
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Post by Sirolk on Oct 20, 2021 18:27:08 GMT -6
EMP can be used sans power grid, most likely a onetime shot, maybe two depending on what's powering it. But I doubt it'd be continual.
If a powerful enough "shot" hits then that might temporarily disrupt power for a few secs/mins, or just flicker the lights. Depends, but no shielding is 100% effective. Maybe high 90's % to be believable.
As for Cylon ftl jumps, they've always been more efficient than the human drives. Machines maxing out machines. I even seem to remember the Cylons giving the humans an update in show to so that what took 3-4 jumps could be done in 1 jump instead. Just depends on the tech installed in the ship. But Cylons will always have the edge. Not a huge gap mind you, but still a noticeable lag between them.
My 2c...
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Post by Imperious Leader Kona on Oct 20, 2021 18:37:10 GMT -6
I'm done for the day here. I have to consider all my alternatives at this point. Eddie has laid a foundation to work from ten years ago (real time) and yet everyone seems to think this EMP will affect the Raiders and possibly the Star so I have to decide what is best and most importantly how I want to continue with this.
Quite the conundrum!
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Post by Vice Admiral Michael Martin on Oct 20, 2021 22:44:27 GMT -6
May I also point out that of the EMP isn't used then this "cloaking" device can be used as a god mode device thus not able to combat it since she'll just jump away ๐คจ๐ง so might as well as yield now a opposed to a drawn out rp that could rectify Kona's name as well as discover who really influenced the war.
So disabling Lexi even if its for a short time means:
1. We can decommission Independence and activate Titan. 2. Allow for the investigation on Kobol to happen. 3. Possible transfer or continuation of the Presidency 4. Actually bring up the Tauron military power storyline? 5. See Kona's reaction to the tip slots 6. See defeats on both sides plus rebuilding thus maybe recruit more in?
Lastly, the EMP could have one effect that often happens when field testing a new piece of technology which is disabling your cloak. Even if it doesn't affect the ship itself it could bring down the "cloaking device" thus allowing Dradis and Lidar weapons to target your ship that previously couldn't see you.
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Post by Imperious Leader Kona on Oct 21, 2021 7:54:01 GMT -6
How do YOU see this playing out for Lexi, Admiral?
What is it you want to see happen? I'm still undecided how to react. I know what I want to do, but I'd like to hear input on what the other side hopes to happen in the story arc regarding the Star.
Not sure I agree with the notion that having a cloaking device is God Modding when Eddie clearly laid the foundation for it ten years ago. But I do get the frustration at not being able to "see" the enemy. However, the Star does show up from time to time as Raiders leave the landing bay so there is potential for it to blip on your dradis signatures.
You've set me up in a no win scenario. Where do I go from this point?
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Post by Vice Admiral Michael Martin on Oct 21, 2021 8:44:47 GMT -6
How do YOU see this playing out for Lexi, Admiral? What is it you want to see happen? I'm still undecided how to react. I know what I want to do, but I'd like to hear input on what the other side hopes to happen in the story arc regarding the Star. Not sure I agree with the notion that having a cloaking device is God Modding when Eddie clearly laid the foundation for it ten years ago. But I do get the frustration at not being able to "see" the enemy. However, the Star does show up from time to time as Raiders leave the landing bay so there is potential for it to blip on your dradis signatures. You've set me up in a no win scenario. Where do I go from this point? Honestly Kona I support whatever you do. Take it from someone who was once on the shit end of new technology back when HQ wanted us to carry GoPros with our standard gear. They spouted all his praise for it but after a long swim we would find them broken open from the pressure. Took a while Tom get it right and now they have cameras embedded in the new digital optics. I'm not saying abandon Eddies thesis about the enduring nature of Cylon technology but maybe the stress of combat combined with the EMP has shortened out the cloak ๐คท. From what I read this device is relatively new so it messing up as quite common. It took half of the Vietnam War till they fixed the M16 and most of our technology rarely works right the first time. The star does show up but by the time there is a lock on you jump so have to wait for the blip again then fire. We can stay in our bunkers and just wait you put ๐ Kobol as still in the building process.
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Post by Imperious Leader Kona on Oct 21, 2021 8:49:33 GMT -6
All right, let me give it a go. Stand by for ........... well .......... something! lol
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Commander Lexi
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Post by Commander Lexi on Oct 21, 2021 9:07:07 GMT -6
Apologies to Gen Thrax. I quoted your original post so if you want to edit the corrected one you can. Or we can just move forward from my post.
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Commander Lexi
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Post by Commander Lexi on Oct 21, 2021 15:05:38 GMT -6
Question for Captain Sisko:
Clarification please: Are you implying you took out a chunk of my Star with this statement? If you are, I will work with that. If not, I am not sure what this post means.
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Post by Vice Admiral Michael Martin on Oct 21, 2021 18:55:35 GMT -6
Question for Captain Sisko:Clarification please: Are you implying you took out a chunk of my Star with this statement? If you are, I will work with that. If not, I am not sure what this post means. Implying that he did take a chunk out of your ship ๐คญ๐ฎ looks like you are missing a tip, Commander.
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Commander Lexi
Cylon Command Staff
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Registered: Nov 11, 2009 16:52:13 GMT -6
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Post by Commander Lexi on Oct 21, 2021 19:03:54 GMT -6
Thank you for the clarification. I will work it into the script. I just wanted to be sure what he was trying to say. Sometimes I am not sure exactly what is meant and wonder if I get it right. You humans, I do wish you were a little easier to understand sometimes. LOL
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